Kurt Hummel&#39;s so bright I gotta wear shades

The only example I can think of is "What are you so scared of?" But yes, I would say he would, if it's a sentence structure the people around him normally use. :)

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Thanks for your two cents! Was that in one of his conversations with Karofsky?

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Yep! Right before the kiss. So maybe it doesn't count because he's so emotional?

I guess it depends on context. If the correct grammar would make him seem really haughty and holier-than-thou, he might use the correct grammar to use that impression to his advantage, or he might speak incorrectly so as not to make the other person uncomfortable.

(Haha sorry for all the edits.)

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verdandil.livejournal.com

You did mention that he was a somewhat flustered in the scene, and common errors swarm every day speech; I'll agree with likeasouffle.

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OK, how did I forget that he was flustered in that scene? Thanks for being my brain, dear!

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canuckpagali.livejournal.com

It depends. I don't think he'd say "you did good" instead of "you did well", but he might say "between you and I" instead of "between you and me".

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I agree, but I would like to add a potential exception. If someone like, say, Finn, said "Did I do good?" I think Kurt might roll his eyes, sigh, and say "Yes, Finn, you did good."

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Aw, that's sweet. :)

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verdandil.livejournal.com

Pfft, I can see that happening.

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OMG. If he said "between you and I," I'd go ballistic. I have no idea why that one bothers me so much. "You did good" would surprise me, but it wouldn't raise my hackles. I must have a preposition/object pronoun fetish.

Thanks for your input!

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canuckpagali.livejournal.com

Oh, I know, but it's such a common error -- and one frequently made by people who want to sound sophisticated.

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I disagree. I'd be really surprised if he said 'between you and I'. Maybe because that one really bothers me.

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He's been raised in small-town U.S., mostly by a not-well-educated man*. I think he tries to sound (and look) like he comes from somewhere where he doesn't. I think that these are all defensive mechanisms, and depending on the people he's with, and how comfortable he is, he may let down his shield a bit, but certain mannerisms, and speech is a mannerism, are pretty ingrained.

A silly grammar mistake in speech that may or may not be a mistake? I think he might make it. Subjunctive form in speech is dying out anyhow. And very rarely do people use 'whom' in spoken. Spoken English and written are different, and he probably writes differently than he speaks. Also, ending a sentence in a preposition isn't really an error. Neither is splitting infinitives. We get hung up on non-errors... and fail to recognize real ones.

That said, like an accent, certain things are going to slip out in certain circumstances. I sound like I'm from California for the most part. (Well as much as most people around here do, Arizona's accent is closest to California/Hollywood.) But if I say 'crayon' I sound like I'm from Cleveland, since that's a word I learned in early childhood from my father, and HE says it with a Cleveland accent.

*We really don't know Burt's education level, but he doesn't speak with the same air as Kurt. He speaks like a mechanic. Kurt does not. Kurt consciously dumbs down his speech when speaking to Finn, and sometimes to Burt. (Though I think Burt understands him more than he lets on.) We also don't know his mother's education and how much influence she had on him growing up. My daughter corrected my grammar once when she was two and I was just whining about not feeling good. "No, mama, you don't feel well."

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I like your head-canon! All of this makes a lot of sense to me. (Tangentially, I sing nursery rhymes and folk songs I learned before the age of five in a totally different accent than the one I normally speak with, because before five I learned form my parents, and after five I learned from school.)

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English isn't my first language, Hebrew is, but I have an American accent when speaking Hebrew, which is odd. Some of the kid songs I know in Hebrew, I sing with an Israeli accent, and some I don't. I don't even know why, because I learned them all pretty much from the time I was itty-bitty. Same with English nursery rhymes. (I say Hebrew is my first language, and it is. But I was adopted at a fairly young age, and it's all sorts of crazy. So, yeah. I was raised with both languages at the same time, but Hebrew was first.)

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That does sound complicated. Is it related to which songs you sang fairly regularly later on, and therefore relearned in your current accent? My language history is comparatively simple. My parents immigrated to Canada from England, so I have a Canadian accent with some songs I sing in a British accent.

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I sing the songs pretty much constantly. So, I don't think so. (I'm a cantorial soloist, so I teach the 4-8th grade Hebrew classes, and run song sessions, and lead services and things in Hebrew. I also sing them with my kids.) I really haven't figured out much rhyme or reason to it. English songs I just sing with whatever they call for, though. (I do theater, too.)

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Ah cool! It's a mystery then. :D

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Ha! I love your daughter! Where did she learn that?

I agree with everything you said about silly grammar mistake[s] in speech that may or may not be a mistake. My mother used to drive me crazy in high school by correcting my grammar all the time. Then I went to college and majored in linguistics and got to be a smarty-pants by telling her that my grammar didn't even need correcting, because we speak English and not Latin, etc., etc. Then I graduated from high school and became an editor, and the people I work with probably think I'm as obnoxious as I used to think my mom was. :)

Fortunately, I still hold that writing and speaking are two different things.

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She got it from me. I'm a teacher, and she'd been stuck in my classroom enough to hear me correct students all the time. (She also corrected may/can mistakes. It's really funny watching a four-year-old ask someone if they're physically capable of using the bathroom.) She's in first grade now, and has a 146% in spelling/vocabulary because I yelled at the teacher the first week of school when the words were to easy for her so she gives her harder words for extra credit now.

And speaking and writing are completely different things. And there's different levels for writing, too. A formal report gets different language than a blog, which gets different language than a newspaper, which gets different language than a romance novel.

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